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Featuring Jack Devine and Jonathan Ward on May 16, 2021

China And Russia With Jack Devine And Jonathan WardGlobal I.Q. Podcast

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When Americans think of a global menace, one of two countries often comes to mind: China or Russia. These global powerhouses are two of the United States’ greatest adversaries on the world stage. But what are the risks they actually pose? In Spymaster’s Prism, 32-year CIA veteran Jack Devine details how Russia’s intelligence apparatus has continuously worked against American national security from the Cold War to the present. He uses the history of U.S. intelligence achievements and failures to help Americans understand what this adversary may be planning in the future. In a similar vein, geostrategic expert John Ward’s China’s Vision of Victory outlines the ways in which “the Chinese Communist Party is guiding a country of 1.4 billion people towards” the “great rejuvenation” of China and the downfall of American dominance. Combining their joint knowledge, Devine and Ward lay out the threats America currently faces, as well as what can be done to neutralize those threats. Jack Devine is a 32-year veteran of the CIA and the founding partner and president of The Arkin Group, an international consulting firm. At the CIA, Devine served as acting director and associate director, chief of Latin America, head of the Counter-Narcotics Center, and head of the Afghan Task Force. He was awarded the CIA’s Meritorious Officer Award and the Distinguished Intelligence Medal. Devine is a published author and op-ed writer. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Jonathan Ward is the founder of the Atlas Organization, a consultancy firm focused on Chinese and Indian national strategy. Before Atlas, Ward was a geostrategic consultant for Oxford Analytica and for the U.S. Department of Defense. He is currently a research associate at Oxford’s Changing Character of War Programme and a visiting academic at the university’s China Centre. Ward holds a Ph.D. from Oxford University in China-India relations, as well as an M.St. in Global and Imperial History, also from Oxford. 

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